Monday Noon woods 5 solo shakeout, 40:25, very tired heavy
tot. 5
4PM
woods 7solo shakeout, 59:04, very very heavy hard to even put one foot in
front of the other, rough tot. 7
Tuesday AM woods 10 easy w/ Joey, 1:11:20 tot. 20
Noon
Finn for treatment super painful work on hips and hammy
PM 8
shakeout, first 5 w/ Gary,
40:25 tot.8
Wednesday AM at mines falls, no watch because I forgot it,
I’m not a very professional
organization, 4 w/up, progression run 4 loops of 2128meter loop, not
real fast just trying to move a bit maybe got down to 5:10 pace? Tough
to tell tired from Sunday workout, sore from massage yesterday and
forgot the fuc*ing watch! 4 c/down tot. 14+
PM
woods 8 solo shakeout, 1:00:58 tot.8
XT
Myrtle and core
Thursday 8AM woods 10+ solo, 1:13:34 tot. 10+
Noon
Finn for treatment, much lighter this time
3PM 8
shakeout, 1:09:22, first 3.5 in 33 mins showing a couple of UML middle
distance girls, that Mike(their coach) swore run 8 minute pace, in 33
mins(painful to go that slow!!), rest solo tot. 8
Friday AM Methuen
Rd. 11, solo, 1:10:36
XT Myrtle
and core, 4x2 mins backwards figure 8 running
PM 4.5+
w/up, 10x12 second hills, 3.5+ c/down , 4x2 mins back fig. 8 running w/
2
mins rest, strides tot. 10
Saturday AM 24+ easy in woods, 2:44:22, 4:30 to drink water
and change shoes, then on
very windy track, 2k-6:06, 400 rest, 5x1k w/ 200 jog rest, 2:59.6, 2:57.0,
2:59.3, 2:57.3, 2:58.6.These
were really flying as it was real windy,
wanted to do 2k’s but hip/hammy almost went on the first 2k so I dropped
to 1k’s.Same old story I’m fit
as hell but the hip/hammy isn’t working. ¾
mile c/down back to my house.tot. 30
XT
Myrtle and rubberband stuff
Sunday 8AM woods 9 solo shakeout, 1:13:47 tot. 9
Travel
to NYC
4PM 9 in
central park solo, 1:02:17 tot. 9
Summary 139 miles for the week, 1 half ass workout and one
good workout.Got the hip/hammy hammered
on a bit by the finn and hope that it will come around.
I have addressed
this in comments but to prevent having to repeat it I’ll just do it here.I’m not sure if I’m in at NYC.I had committed earlier but hadn’t heard back
from them.Then last week I got an email
on Monday from David Monti asking if I was good to go.I waited till after I saw the finn on Tuesday
to respond.Which I did in the
affirmative saying basically I was fit and ahead of last year, the sunny view
but very true.That day the NYC marathon
released its American press release and I was not mentioned.Now I have not heard back from them yet,
Sunday night.I’m not sure what the deal
is, obviously they are busy, also because of my slow reply they may have given
my spot to someone else, also they may be aware of the struggles that I’m
having with the hip and not want to waste the travel and housing money on a
banged up long shot.What ever it is I’m
in the dark at the moment.But I’m
feeling pretty zen about it, if they don’t want me I’ll simply switch focus and
do mayors cup, a thanksgiving race and club cross nats and maybe a couple other
short races.If I’m in my intention is
to run 2:11 pace as long as the hip/hammy holds, when it goes I struggle to go
about 5:20 pace, if it goes real early it will be uglier then that as running
becomes an awkward motion and I’ll be forced to stop and stretch and what
not.I doubt at this point that the hip
will hold for 26.2 but at the trials it only held just under 19, so that isn’t
the end of the world.Now this weekend I
have the Hartford
half marathon.I really don’t know what
to expect.The hip could go early, like
it did in Houston
in jan. and I could crawl in around 1:08 like I did there, or it could hold up
for bit more then half, like it did at BAA last fall and I could crawl in
around 1:06, like I did there.I hope it
will hold for at least 10, I feel if I can get to 10 I should be able to hold
on for the win.Obviously I would love
to hold to the finish but its still pretty pissed off and I only have 6 days to
get ready and I’m not resting too much.
Ok so lessons
learned.Well I got too excited after it
held up for that 20k in September it was a massive step in the right direction,
the first in 18 months of what had been steady decline but I should have been
more patient and keep at the work. Oh well I have seen the light at the end of
the tunnel and I will get past this, probably not this fall but certainly
someday and when I do I’ll be ready to run a world class marathon on a level I
have never before approached.
So why not just
pull out of NYC?Basically three
reasons, 1st I’m not totally convinced I can’t run pretty well, If I
can get to 20 in 1:40 before the hip goes I can run 33:00 for the last 10k(I
did 32:56 at the trials after it went) and that is a PR it will probably go top
10 and its good experience., 2nd I don’t make much money and if I
don’t get a big payday between now and march things are going to get real
rough, I know get a job.Thing is I run
140 miles a week, I do an hour a day of cross training, I get two massages a
week, I sleep 10 hours a night and still take naps, frankly when I try to work
around that things get dropped and I get hurt or sick(mono). So I don’t want to
particularly when I’m this fit.NYC is a
chance to get a solid payday.I don’t
need to win to pay for my lifestyle, I live on about 225 a week(gas, food,
phone, rent, car ins) so 3 or 4 grand goes a long long way. 3rd
simple stupid pride I don’t want to back down, I said I could do it, I told
Saucony, who is great to me, I would do it and god damn it I want to do
it.Pride is my biggest sin.
You seem to be a very persistent individual. You should call the marathon people AGAIN. Yes, they are busy---- even more reason for you to take the initiative. Good luck.
I would say I'm a persistent fellow and if the hammy/hip was 100% I would be calling and emailing them hourly until they cracked but at the moment I"m ok with running or not running NYC I have a plan either way and both ways have there pluses and minuses.
nate
nyc
12:09 AM, October 7, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
Nate, what are you doing in NYC and when are you there until? just interested to see if a run would work out sometime this week.
sorry
1:34 AM, October 7, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
Sorry just got home. I was there for a saucony marketing thing with magazine editors, got there mid afternoon on sunday and left about 6:15 this evening. Perhaps next time.
nate
F'in Watch/Hammy
6:13 AM, October 7, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
Glad to see elites are sometimes obsessed about the watch too...
Also with the hamstring... what treatments do you have done on it? Maybe ultrasound would help if you don't already do it? I know sometimes it seems to be one of those things that PT when they don't really know what is going on but this seems like a pretty chronic injury... maybe your taper will bring it close to normal too?
Well I'm not too obsessed with the watch but it is really hard to do a proper workout without one, particularly one in which you are worried about going to fast.
I do stim, ultrasound and cold laser, none of which seem to have any effect, though to be honest in my personal experience I have never had a single injury, and believe me in college I had them all, that seemed to respond in any way to any of those machines at all.
I mostly am having different massage things down to it, ART, trigger point, deep tissue. Also chiropractic adjustments.
If I get a good payday at a race or something I'm thinking I'll try acupuncture, I've tried most everything else and I've heard some good things.
you said it
4:48 PM, October 7, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
might be time
Sacrifices
8:52 PM, October 7, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
Nate,
You have given so much of yourself in the name of distance running to prove yourself . Sacrifices such as employment, wealth,social life, time etc in order to test your stamina, committment, discipline and motivation. You cannot withdraw from NY at this stage as it will be a good test of your performance and fitness levels. It will prove what your capable of achieving and be a test for your current injuries. You have worked so hard and now is the opportunity to reach your goals and aims in running. Give it a chance man as we are all rooting for your success.
LEL is OUT
10:31 PM, October 7, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
this just in, defending champ martin lel has pulled out of NYC
Nate I really enjoy reading your blog, however, its hard to sift through over a years worth of comments where youve outlined training. Is there any way possible you could compile a compilation of small "Articles" youve written on training so far, into a word document available for download.
sacrifices, intresting theory, but I'm not quite in agreement. Running a marathon and not being able to run hard because of an injury would do nothing to test my fitness.
Now if it went well certainly that would be the best case for the fall, but if it went like hell that is the worst case. The marathon at this point is basically a crap shoot. Now the short races, sure I suck at short races but I know I can finish them so it is the safe bet. I'm not really a safe bet kind of guy but that is how I see it in general.
I will get around to doing some more blogs on training, I promise but for now if you check the archives, February 14 was a blog on marathon training that was pretty in depth.
nate
Yoga
1:12 AM, October 8, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
Yoga helps my hips and hamstrings big time! I know you were trying bikram a while back... Maybe try something else. Bikram is always the same stuff. Maybe try something less intense and closer to Restorative yoga?... If you do decide to give it a go, try not to get competitive with the old ladies who make it look easy! ;) (for some reason I picture you making it a competition)...
Us runners aren't always the most flexible... there's no shame in that, that's part of what the yoga is for!
I'm actually on the same page with you on this, I haven't been doing the bikram basically because it is a bit rough to recover from in the middle of 140 mile weeks, and more to the point I haven't got the cash. But I'm stealing this video from my mom that she has used that is a yoga series that is less intense but totally focused on the hips.
And you pictured it right I get a bit competitive in the room but hopefully on my little mat alone I'll be fine.
willing to write a book
1:39 AM, October 8, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
Nate, I think you should write a book. Maybe half auto-biography, half training theory. You have a lot of gold in that head of yours. Maybe over a few years since you have a lot of competitive running and learning ahead, but keep it in mind.
Just a thought.
Nate "Badass" Jenkins
2:35 AM, October 8, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
Yeah, Nate I really think that you should consider writing more on your training theories. I'm not sure about other elite athletes but you seem to be pretty well informed and understand how to apply those theories in a disciplined manner and be your own coach, not too many athletes I think have the will to do that.
I'm not sure about your willingness to work personally with runners, but I feel that with your knowledge and background in the sport that you could be an exceptional coach in the future.
You seem to be a much more humble runner since youve made a considerable amount of sacrifices to get where you are. On this blog you don't just pump your chest but you're willing to discuss running with individuals from every level and I greatly appreciate that.
Keep it real Nate
nothing to loose
4:02 AM, October 8, 2008
.. Posted by Anonymous
I've followed the blog for sometime now. I just wanted to throw a suggestion in the air for you. Is there any chance your problems are a result of electrolyte shortage/ dehydration? I've come to the realization that these issues affect people quite differently. It's for you to explore, I trust you are open-minded and know your ****. I appreciate the posts man.
book- I'd love to get so knowledgeable that I could write a book, and if I did it would certainly be full of stories, anyone who has run with me will tell you I tend to go on and on, but it will be at least a few years till I have that kind of wide rangeing knowledge, for the time being I think I'll be sticking to the essays and blogs and thats about it. Plus I think I'm going to have to run a little faster to get the kind of name recognition needed to get a book published, although I guess nowadays you just skip the publishing process and do it yourself, where is the fun in that?
Humble- I really think calling me humble in any context is a pretty big stretch. I have more then a small ego, that is for sure, thanks though.
electrolyte shortage- Great thought, its actually one of the things I initially thought and went through a bunch of stuff to try and fix it that way, in terms of liquid fueling before and during runs, but in the end none of it seemed to have any effect good or bad.
nate
Well it didn't really do anything last time and it isn't cheap. That said I'm going to start doing a yoga tape for the hips to see if that helps. so basically I agree.
nate
